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No word yet if CCSU will extend DM or look elsewhere, but as the season comes to an end, a lot of local and peers will be making a coaching change.

Here's a running list: https://www.coachesdatabase.com/coaching-carousel-2021/
(DM is on their "Hot Seat" report https://www.coachesdatabase.com/hot-seat-report/)

Some local news:
UAlbany - https://www.timesunion.com/sports/artic ... 988049.php
Binghamton - https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ne-seasons

Personally, I would definitely put Albany's Will Brown on our list of calls if CCSU has an opening.
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Binghamton promoted an assistant to interim coach for the next year, so they won't be open until April of 2022 (if ever).

I had that first thought on Will Brown, but do you realize he made $350k at Albany? He could probably make more as a high-major assistant somewhere than he would as the Head Coach here (Marshall makes just $141k).

It also makes sense to throw Fordham, Penn St., and Boston College on that list. Those jobs could have ramifications on potential CCSU targets. Vermont's John Becker is rumored to be in the mix at both Penn St. and BC. If Vermont opens, that'd be a highly coveted job.
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CCSU4-3 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:02 am Binghamton promoted an assistant to interim coach for the next year, so they won't be open until April of 2022 (if ever).

I had that first thought on Will Brown, but do you realize he made $350k at Albany? He could probably make more as a high-major assistant somewhere than he would as the Head Coach here (Marshall makes just $141k).

It also makes sense to throw Fordham, Penn St., and Boston College on that list. Those jobs could have ramifications on potential CCSU targets. Vermont's John Becker is rumored to be in the mix at both Penn St. and BC. If Vermont opens, that'd be a highly coveted job.
First, DM makes more than that. The CCSU men's coaching State contract salary is supplemented by funding from the foundation. The head coaching salary at Central Connecticut is on par with our mid-major peers. Our facilities and operating budgets may be lower than most other peers - but we will not have an issue putting up a competitive coaching salary package.

Second, don't discount the job of "head coach" at any D-I school. It is a coveted position and title - plus there are only 331 of the positions in the country. Leading your own program is a lot different than being an Associate head coach at a Power 5 school. Many guys want to run their own program, and the salary isn't a huge deal (if they think they can win).

That's the key part - you can find great, young guys willing to come to New Britain, but only if they well supported by the Administration and they have a chance to win. Sure, this is a job - but these guys are very competitive and winning is very important.
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J.J. wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:10 am First, DM makes more than that. The CCSU men's coaching State contract salary is supplemented by funding from the foundation. The head coaching salary at Central Connecticut is on par with our mid-major peers. Our facilities and operating budgets may be lower than most other peers - but we will not have an issue putting up a competitive coaching salary package.
Interesting!

I'm only going by the actual contract, which shows:

1) base salary of $140,758
2) car allowance of $12,500
3) $37,500 in supplemental comp for public speaking engagements and other activities
4) $2,500 for a top 4 finish or $5,000 for conf champs
5) $5,000 for post-season wins
6) $2,500 for COY
7) $5,000 for aggregate PA of 3.0

I'm not aware of supplemental income from the foundation.
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I'm not sure of the details either and I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think it is similar at many schools. Also, the car allowance and speaking engagements bring the direct compensation up to $190k. Add in a generous benefit package, etc. and I think this type of contract is competitive with many, but not all, of our peers. Remember all schools report salary info/budgets differently, so it is always hard to do an exact apples to apples comparison. Of course I think Fairfield and Quinnipiac may pay more than CCSU, but I'm not so sure Wagner or St. Peter's is throwing $$$ at coaches.

Albany certainly has a bigger budget than CCSU, but Will Brown has been there for many years and has a few NCAA appearances under his belt. That was not his original deal, he earned that over time.

See this report on UConn coaching salaries/contracts at https://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/rpt/2005-r-0245.htm
"All UConn coaches' compensation comes solely from Athletic Department revenues. These include ticket sales, radio and television broadcast contracts, Big East conference and NCAA income, private fundraising, and corporate partnerships. According to a 2003 Sports Illustrated article this is the case for most coaches, although some receive compensation from university foundations and private, university-affiliated athletic associations."

Bottom line, from what I've heard, all CCSU coaches have very competitive salaries. The way CCSU structures its employment/coaching deals is different than UConn or many other major programs, but it is in the ball park of similar, peers at this level.
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If the CCSU job posts in a few weeks, what are the names to look out for?

Here's mine:

Patrick Sellers - 1991 ECC DPOY at CCSU; former assistant at CCSU, UConn, Hofstra, and UMass; current assistant at Fairfield
https://fairfieldstags.com/staff-direct ... ellers/179

Steve Curran - Former assistant at CCSU (2005-2010) and current Associate HC at St. Bona
https://gobonnies.sbu.edu/sports/m-bask ... e?view=bio

Chris Casey - Former CCSU assistant (2001-2006); former HC at Niagara
https://fairfieldstags.com/sports/mens- ... -casey/608

Wlll Brown - Former HC at UAlbany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Brown_(basketball)

Mitch Oliver - Current HC at Albertus Magnus (D-III)
https://www.albertusfalcons.com/informa ... h?view=bio

Scott Burrell - Current HC at Southern Connecticut (D-II)
https://scsuowls.com/sports/mens-basket ... urrell/991
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J.J. wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 pm If the CCSU job posts in a few weeks, what are the names to look out for?

Here's mine:

Patrick Sellers - 1991 ECC DPOY at CCSU; former assistant at CCSU, UConn, Hofstra, and UMass; current assistant at Fairfield
https://fairfieldstags.com/staff-direct ... ellers/179

Steve Curran - Former assistant at CCSU (2005-2010) and current Associate HC at St. Bona
https://gobonnies.sbu.edu/sports/m-bask ... e?view=bio

Chris Casey - Former CCSU assistant (2001-2006); former HC at Niagara
https://fairfieldstags.com/sports/mens- ... -casey/608

Wlll Brown - Former HC at UAlbany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Brown_(basketball)

Mitch Oliver - Current HC at Albertus Magnus (D-III)
https://www.albertusfalcons.com/informa ... h?view=bio

Scott Burrell - Current HC at Southern Connecticut (D-II)
https://scsuowls.com/sports/mens-basket ... urrell/991
I actually like your list... I think you go Patrick Sellers (a CCSU alumn)... He's tasted success along the D1 ranks as an assistant coach... I think he's ready to lead CCSU... Years of experience too... He's the guy....
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Here's the betting line on next NCAA coaches to get fired.
Dave Leitao +275
Donyell Marshall +280
Bruce Weber +280
Mike Brey +1200
Tim Jankovich +1200
Archie Miller +1200
Josh Pastner +1200
Dave Paulsen +1200
Steve Prohm +1200
Paul Weir +1200
Mark Turgeon +1200
https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/next-coach-fired-odds
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J.J. wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:59 am No word yet if CCSU will extend DM or look elsewhere, but as the season comes to an end, a lot of local and peers will be making a coaching change.

Here's a running list: https://www.coachesdatabase.com/coaching-carousel-2021/
(DM is on their "Hot Seat" report https://www.coachesdatabase.com/hot-seat-report/)

Some local news:
UAlbany - https://www.timesunion.com/sports/artic ... 988049.php
Binghamton - https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... ne-seasons

Personally, I would definitely put Albany's Will Brown on our list of calls if CCSU has an opening.
worst part of that initial list is 2 coaches were lost due to COVID (Lew Hill and Anthony Stewart)
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Again, just to put things in perspective, read the Albany board. They have issues just like any other program at this level. The AD and Will Brown didn't get along and so he was pushed out. The school's deficit has quadrupled in the last 4 years; declining enrollment, COVID challenges, etc.

Bottom line, as bad as we all think it is here at CCSU (and yes, it is very bad situation for sure), this happens to a similar degree/situation at lots of other mid-major schools. We don't need to panic about the lack of news from the school yet. Again, I think this process will play itself out throughout April/May and we will be in a better place than we are today.

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I have been a Patrick Sellers advocate since Howie retired. He is my first choice.
The problem with Mitch Oliver (DIII) and Scott Burrell (DII) is that they do not have experience with DI recruiting. A D1 assistant or former HC would be well experienced and have many connections within the D1 market for recruits.

I think that renewing DM's contract would be a big mistake. What is going to change? And though 2020 was a tough year, Central was still in the basement of the NEC. All of the schools that finished above Central were playing under similar conditions.
I think that DM is a good guy and has given his best effort. If he wants to stay it is because he is not accustomed to failure and is determined to fix things here. But five years is a long time in college basketball and we are in the same position as we were when this era started.
My opinion is that it is time for a change.

....or how about Jim Calhoun? I mean I know he is even older than me, but if he could spend his retirement coaching at the DIII level than why not a low mid major? Too much baggage? if you know what I mean....did I just open a can of worms?
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Patrick Sellers - 1991 ECC DPOY at CCSU; former assistant at CCSU, UConn, Hofstra, and UMass; current assistant at Fairfield


Steve Curran - Former assistant at CCSU (2005-2010) and current Associate HC at St. Bona

JJ -I love your list I have always been a huge Pat Sellars fan It is time to welcome him back....
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We Neeeeeeeed someone who can recruit.
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