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I’m liking this Cuse team. They can all knock down the tough shots...almost choked though.
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ccsuhoops wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:36 pm I’m liking this Cuse team. They can all knock down the tough shots...almost choked though.
Agreed. Always like 'Cuse going back to the late 1980s, when my Stamford High School boy's basketball program had a Orange Crush kinda vibe. Been a big fan of Boeheim.

Plus my wife went to Grad school there and it's really nice to see the UConn fans feel bitter about their success.

Its a win-win if you're following a major program outside of CCSU :)

Pikiell also doing well at Rutgers right now. Up on Houston.
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Pikiell giving me nightmare flashbacks taking the stall tactic bs out of Howies playbook. Hated it then, hating it now. Will be a tough loss for them, they had this game
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Oral Roberts baby. This could be US! 15 seed!
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I saw this Mark Adams tweet and it bummed me out:

https://twitter.com/EnthusiAdams/status ... 62790?s=20

ORU has a budget of $2.1MM, which is tiny compared to Florida ($9.3MM).

CCSU's budget, as far as I'm aware, is in the $600k range? Tough.
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Friggen pathetic is what it is.
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CCSU4-3 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:40 am I saw this Mark Adams tweet and it bummed me out:

https://twitter.com/EnthusiAdams/status ... 62790?s=20

ORU has a budget of $2.1MM, which is tiny compared to Florida ($9.3MM).

CCSU's budget, as far as I'm aware, is in the $600k range? Tough.
4-3, sorry, but that is just not accurate. Our budget is not really any worse than our "true peers" in the NEC. Of course, I think our budget is too low for a public university in the State of Connecticut - but that's an entirely different issue. We operate on the "low end" - but not uncompetitively - with our regional peers in other 1-bid conferences.

Per U.S. Dept. of Education filings, the CCSU men's basketball budget $1.4 million and our football budget is $3.1 million

By comparison, the following is the most recent MBB budgets (in millions) for the following schools:

Binghamton - $1.4
Hofstra - $3.0
Fordham - $5.1
Bryant - $1.9
Fairfield - $3.3
Iona - $2.9
Sacred Heart - $1.5
NJIT - $1.9
Albany - $1.8
Buffalo - $3.1
UConn - $9.3

https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/
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2018 MBB budgets for D-I programs in New England, NY, NJ, PA, and MD

Institution Name Expenses Men's Team
Syracuse University $14,845,555
Villanova University $14,428,932
Providence College $11,117,186
University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $11,013,283
St John's University-New York $10,028,677
University of Connecticut $9,325,922
University of Maryland-College Park $9,163,793
Rutgers University-New Brunswick $7,545,360
Seton Hall University $7,506,127
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $7,343,831
Boston College $6,872,835
Temple University $6,487,460
Saint Joseph's University $6,152,876
Duquesne University $5,612,982
Fordham University $5,075,355
University of Rhode Island $4,745,208
University of Massachusetts-Amherst $4,025,395
St Bonaventure University $3,832,105
La Salle University $3,558,014
Fairfield University $3,280,514
Siena College $3,219,292
Northeastern University $3,207,255
Quinnipiac University $3,203,013
University at Buffalo $3,093,556
Hofstra University $2,939,154
Iona College $2,881,346
Monmouth University $2,795,919
Drexel University $2,760,011
Boston University $2,669,686
Robert Morris University $2,661,978
Bucknell University $2,624,075
Rider University $2,508,228
Manhattan College $2,455,366
Stony Brook University $2,392,346
Marist College $2,358,993
University of Hartford $2,303,817
College of the Holy Cross $2,282,921
University of Vermont $2,261,158
Towson University $2,259,918
University of Maryland-Baltimore County $2,222,771
Colgate University $2,126,456
University of Pennsylvania $2,049,825
Saint Francis University $2,040,877
Loyola University Maryland $2,002,011
Lafayette College $1,938,231
Bryant University $1,883,381
University of Massachusetts-Lowell $1,882,325
New Jersey Institute of Technology $1,857,283
Fairleigh Dickinson University-Metropolitan Campus $1,846,780
Mount St. Mary's University $1,815,414
SUNY at Albany $1,799,859
Binghamton University $1,753,592
Lehigh University $1,725,866
Niagara University $1,683,937
Saint Peter's University $1,641,425
Canisius College $1,639,094
University of New Hampshire-Main Campus $1,601,005
Morgan State University $1,517,680
Sacred Heart University $1,496,346
Wagner College $1,487,551
Harvard University $1,474,941
Columbia University in the City of New York $1,445,658
University of Maine $1,432,766
Yale University $1,416,853
Central Connecticut State University $1,402,297
St Francis College $1,358,525
Princeton University $1,342,776
Brown University $1,239,495
Cornell University $1,143,930
Dartmouth College $1,131,199
University of Maryland Eastern Shore $1,000,683
Coppin State University $785,999
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That appears to be correct.

The last time I looked at the Equity in Athletics site it had CCSU at somewhere in the $600,000s. That jumped out at me because it was so significantly lower than the rest of the NEC. Perhaps there was an error in the numbers.

Ivy League schools shouldn't count because they don't award sports scholarships. So outside of a couple of MD MEAC schools, we are below everyone else and on par with SFC. Also remember; these numbers are from 2018. There's reason to believe the budget is lower now than it was then. I've heard from inside sources that budgetary constrains remain a real and increasing problem.

I've said it a million times; someone can win here, but it'll take a special coach to do it.
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CCSU4-3 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:58 pm That appears to be correct.

The last time I looked at the Equity in Athletics site it had CCSU at somewhere in the $600,000s. That jumped out at me because it was so significantly lower than the rest of the NEC. Perhaps there was an error in the numbers.

Ivy League schools shouldn't count because they don't award sports scholarships. So outside of a couple of MD MEAC schools, we are below everyone else and on par with SFC. Also remember; these numbers are from 2018. There's reason to believe the budget is lower now than it was then. I've heard from inside sources that budgetary constrains remain a real and increasing problem.

I've said it a million times; someone can win here, but it'll take a special coach to do it.
First, all these numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Even though the reporting requirements are standard, institutional differences in budget and accounting structure make true comparisons impossible. But this give us a magnitude of relativity among schools.

CCSU is on the low-end of budgets within the NEC and at the D-I level nationally. I think we operate in a slightly better fiscal environment than most HBCUs (MEAC and SWAC), but we are a clear step behind most traditional "mid majors" that are recognized.

And within each league, there are haves and have nots. In the NEC, Bryant may be at the top and St. Francis Brooklyn at the bottom, but the gap between them is probably less than $550k. Stony Brook may lead the AE and New Hampshire is at the low end, but again the gap is less than $500k.

That's why I have a hard time for someone to say Binghamton, Bryant, or St. Peter's is a "better job" than CCSU. Although Albany pays better than CCSU, that's just one factor - it alone doesn't make "better" or "more desirable" jobs for the candidates.

Each school is unique and needs the "right fit" to be succesful.
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J.J. wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:22 pm
That's why I have a hard time for someone to say Binghamton, Bryant, or St. Peter's is a "better job" than CCSU. Although Albany pays better than CCSU, that's just one factor - it alone doesn't make "better" or "more desirable" jobs for the candidates.
When I say a job is "better", I mean "most candidates would prefer those jobs over CCSU".

If you asked someone like Pat Sellers, he'd probably prefer Central over, say, Albany. He played here, knows the area, etc. Maybe even Steve Curran, who knows the area well.

But I just can't get on board with the idea that "random candidate X" would pass up Albany, or even Binghamton, Bryant, or St. Peter's, for CCSU.
Today Sheantay Legans, the HC of Eastern Washington which earned the Big Sky's autobid this year and won the regular season title last season and hasn't finished <.500 in league play since 2013 (a few years before Legans got there), is leaving for Portland, a school that hasn't finished >.500 in the WCC since 2010. History says it's a lot easier to make the NCAA Tournament at Eastern Washington (3 times since 2004) than it is at Portland (they made it twice; 1996, and 1969). Why is Legans leaving? He's about to triple his $130k salary. Many might suggest Eastern Washington is > Portland as a job, but clearly not.

Outside of MEAC/SWAC schools, I can't think of less desirable jobs in the northeast. Maybe Maine? St. Francis-Brooklyn? Though Brooklyn is probably a fun place to live as a college kid. Besides low expectations, one of the stronger fan bases in the league, and an actual campus (unlike many NEC schools), what are the benefits of this job? Facilities are garbage and they have one of the smallest budgets. What are the competitive advantages?

If Bryant were to open, no coach in their right mind would turn down Bryant for CCSU. Everything about that job is better. The school just shelled out the bucks for the Bulldogs to play in the CBI. Could you imagine CCSU doing that? L.O.L.
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What a Final Four game this is! UCLA got HOSED on that block call before ot. All arm, not ball. 🤦🏻‍♂️

And I’m seriously going to cancel Allstate strictly on this stupid a$$ let’s make lots of money commercial that I wish I had a dollar for every time I saw it during this tournament
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I’m gonna bet he didn’t call glass on that shot. Too bad, hate seeing the one seeds win.
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Anyone think Suggs looks like Mickens?
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